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Old 06/17/2017, 10:01 PM   #2926
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Sooo, I upped the sump level from 8 to 9 by placing a overflow comb on the bubble trap. Water went up, skimmer level went up, and it's skimming beter. Turned the wedge to let the intake get the full amount of air again. And it was down to nothing.
I have checked the whole skimmer again, and added a tinyer silicone tube on the air intake. And it seems to skim better again, and I have turn the wedge abit more. It on the first stripe now. If I turn it 180 degree, the water level in the skimmer is down to nothing again.

Any other tips? Or can I say that I have a faulty one? (would be weird since they test it and it got checked for everything).

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I can assure you that you don't have a faulty one. Let me explain how this works. First the only time and way these pumps fail is dead. They either work or they don't. The wedge pipe has nothing at all to do with air or pump flow unless you really pinch the air line. What that does is reduce the airflow and increase the water flow which will raise the level in the skimmer. If restricting the airflow increases the level in the skimmer which it did as noted by your restriction than that tells me the pump is working fine. The pump spins at a set RPM and doesn't know the difference between air and water. If the level goes up when you pinch or plug the line, then it is working fine.

You will need to close the wedge pipe more. I can promise you that if you close the wedge pipe enough, the water will overflow out of the skimmer. It's impossible for it not to because you are blocking the water from flowing out of the body. When you open the wedge that allows the water to leave with less restriction and that lowers the level inside the skimmer which is exactly what you do not want to to. The wedge pipe is designed to work such that when you open wedge you are lowering the level inside the skimmer and when you close wedge you raise the level. Put the airline back on the venturi port where it belongs and use the wedge pipe to raise the level. Disregard the lines on the wedge assembly and close the pipe by rotation and at some point you WILL see the water rise. Make sure you orient the silicone line so that it's not getting pinched when you close the pipe.

My best suggestion is to do one of two things so you understand how this works. Either remove the skimmer from the sump and take a look inside the drain on the skimmer while rotating the wedge pipe so you can see where the wedge pipe goes from open to closed. Or you can pull the wedge pipe out of the PVC connection and look down into the fitting also noting the wedge shaped cut on the pipe as that should also lend some clarity as to how the wedge pipe blocks the waters flow coming out of the skimmer. As I said, the wedge blocks the exit coming out of the skimmer when closed. The more you close it, the higher the level will be in the skimmer. It's simple and once you know where the fully closed position is on the wedge, you will be able to find your sweet spot befween open and closed to get the level where it needs to be.


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Old 06/19/2017, 04:11 PM   #2927
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I can assure you that you don't have a faulty one. Let me explain how this works. First the only time and way these pumps fail is dead. They either work or they don't. The wedge pipe has nothing at all to do with air or pump flow unless you really pinch the air line. What that does is reduce the airflow and increase the water flow which will raise the level in the skimmer. If restricting the airflow increases the level in the skimmer which it did as noted by your restriction than that tells me the pump is working fine. The pump spins at a set RPM and doesn't know the difference between air and water. If the level goes up when you pinch or plug the line, then it is working fine.

You will need to close the wedge pipe more. I can promise you that if you close the wedge pipe enough, the water will overflow out of the skimmer. It's impossible for it not to because you are blocking the water from flowing out of the body. When you open the wedge that allows the water to leave with less restriction and that lowers the level inside the skimmer which is exactly what you do not want to to. The wedge pipe is designed to work such that when you open wedge you are lowering the level inside the skimmer and when you close wedge you raise the level. Put the airline back on the venturi port where it belongs and use the wedge pipe to raise the level. Disregard the lines on the wedge assembly and close the pipe by rotation and at some point you WILL see the water rise. Make sure you orient the silicone line so that it's not getting pinched when you close the pipe.

My best suggestion is to do one of two things so you understand how this works. Either remove the skimmer from the sump and take a look inside the drain on the skimmer while rotating the wedge pipe so you can see where the wedge pipe goes from open to closed. Or you can pull the wedge pipe out of the PVC connection and look down into the fitting also noting the wedge shaped cut on the pipe as that should also lend some clarity as to how the wedge pipe blocks the waters flow coming out of the skimmer. As I said, the wedge blocks the exit coming out of the skimmer when closed. The more you close it, the higher the level will be in the skimmer. It's simple and once you know where the fully closed position is on the wedge, you will be able to find your sweet spot befween open and closed to get the level where it needs to be.
Well, I have build, got familiar with every part of the skimmer. Tried again and again. And at first no luck, everything I did did nothing to the skimmer. Now after a few tries for some reason the water is staying in the skimmer, it's on exact the same settings as a few days before. The wedge pipe was all the way in and couldn't go any further, it has been like that the whole time. Nothing changes yet it started to skim. Removed the silicone tube, and it would still skim. I can happily say that it is finally working!! Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. Now I can sit back and let the king do it's work

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Old 06/19/2017, 05:43 PM   #2928
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Well, I have build, got familiar with every part of the skimmer. Tried again and again. And at first no luck, everything I did did nothing to the skimmer. Now after a few tries for some reason the water is staying in the skimmer, it's on exact the same settings as a few days before. The wedge pipe was all the way in and couldn't go any further, it has been like that the whole time. Nothing changes yet it started to skim. Removed the silicone tube, and it would still skim. I can happily say that it is finally working!! Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. Now I can sit back and let the king do it's work

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Interesing. It could have been something in your water impacting the surface tension. Glad to hear it's working properly.


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